CHAPTERS
0:00 Cold open — a father's question
1:18 Welcome: polarized and paralyzed
2:02 The tennis-court story
4:25 Raising kids in a divided time
6:40 Meet Mónica Guzmán
7:28 The election-day walk with her dad
9:37 From journalist to bridge-builder
13:14 Sorting, silos & shared blind spots
16:53 Why disagreement feels like danger ("social death")
20:37 Curiosity is a discipline, not a personality trait
24:31 Raising curious kids
28:03 The productive conversation model
31:00 "How did you come to believe what you believe?"
32:43 Reaching people who are set in their ways
34:49 Scaling curiosity in a polarized society
38:33 Social media, AI & losing sight of each other
43:57 Why Washington stopped compromising
49:52 A story of hope: 727 points of agreement
52:44 Closing reflections
ABOUT OUR GUEST
Mónica Guzmán is a journalist, author, speaker, and bridge-builder. She is founder and CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, and host of the podcast A Braver Way. Her book "I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times" is a practical guide to talking with — and truly understanding — people we disagree with.
Website: https://moniguzman.com
Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/I-Never-Thought-of-It-That-Way/Monica-Guzman/9781637746028
Braver Angels: https://braverangels.org
YOUR HOSTS
Dr. John Izzo — bestselling author of nine books, including Stepping Up and The Purpose Revolution; pioneer in corporate purpose and regenerative leadership. https://drjohnizzo.com
Dr. Polina Orlowski, DNP, RN, CNL, CPHQ — Director of Quality & Patient Safety at Ascension, bringing a millennial and parental lens to cross-generational conversations.
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