And you t- talk about the moment we are born for so maybe you can link the 2 things together I'll let you decide who wants to go first I'm happy to go first Um thank you for having us It's wonderful uh to be here So for me the reason uh for writing this book was that I feel right now in this moment,The social fabric of our society is collapsing and this has to do partly with uh what public spaces do we have in our society so where can we individually and collectively articulate who we are and who we want to be And in our work that Otto and I have been doing over the past 20 years we realized the quality of relationships the quality of awareness in a social field or social system defines really the outcome of that social system
