This is a short taken from a conversation from The Way Forward: Regenerative Conversations, with Brian McLaren, where John and Alain explore what it means to live—and lead—after doom. Drawing from Life After Doom, Brian reframes “doom” as the moment we realize our problems outsize our current solutions, then walks us from anger to grief to love as a generative path forward. Along the way, we unpack overshoot and the polycrisis beneath climate change, a practical four scenario map of possible futures, and everyday practices that keep us grounded—finding companions to talk with, time in nature, and deep honesty in prayerful reflection. The result is a clear eyed conversation that neither sugarcoats nor catastrophizes—and calls us to show up with courage, compassion, and love.